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U.S. Interest Payments Just Hit $1 Trillion: What Now?

October 1, 2025
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Matthew tackles one of the most under-appreciated yet monumental developments in the global financial system: the United States is now spending over $1 trillion annually on interest payments—more than its defense budget. He unpacks the implications of this staggering figure and explains why it’s a key signal of an accelerating debt spiral. With Treasury issuance rising and the cost of rolling over old debt increasing, Matthew lays out how interest expense is now the fastest-growing part of U.S. government spending. He compares this to the tech bubble, Great Financial Crisis, and COVID stimulus era, noting that the current fiscal environment has no precedent. He also discusses the implications for asset allocation, inflation expectations, and central bank credibility. The episode connects the dots between sovereign debt dynamics, declining bond demand, and why Bitcoin stands apart as a monetary system that is not someone else’s liability. Whether you’re a macro wonk or a Bitcoin investor, this is a critical update that explains why the financial system may be heading toward structural instability—and why more people are turning to hard assets. Porkopolis Economics - Episode 277 Chapters: 00:00:00 - Bitcoin Transaction Analysis and Fee Trends 00:15:11 - Bitcoin Fee Market Analysis 00:22:18 - Bitcoin Halving Impact on Miner Revenue 00:27:03 - Bitcoin Mining Revenue vs Gold Oil 00:32:40 - Bitcoin Power Curve Analysis 00:51:24 - Bitcoin vs Fedwire Transaction Value Comparison 00:55:34 - Bitcoin Power Curve Analysis 01:03:54 - Bitcoin Cycles vs Exponential Growth Models 01:08:41 - Bitcoin Power Curve vs Stock-to-Flow 01:24:29 - Bitcoin Power Curve vs Traditional Assets 01:28:25 - Bitcoin's Power Curve vs Exponential Growth 01:39:41 - Bitcoin Fee Market Analysis Show Sponsor: Debifi - https://debifi.com/ Donations to Porkopolis Economics via BTCPay are appreciated: https://donations.porkopolis.io/ Porkopolis Economics covers macroeconomics, money, geopolitics and sports from the creator of the Crypto Voices podcast, Matthew Mezinskis. Data-driven. Scale matters. Smaller, decentralized states means more opportunity for liberty than larger ones. Host: Matthew Mezinskis https://porkopolis.io https://x.com/1basemoney Show content is not investment or financial advice in any way. 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6266922845601792