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Podcasts/Presidio Bitcoin Jam/21 in 21: Pierre Rochard
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Presidio Bitcoin Jam

21 in 21: Pierre Rochard

April 11, 2025
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Haley Berkoe sat down with Pierre Rochard, who recently launched The Bitcoin Bond Company. Rochard is a longtime bitcoiner, having previously served as the VP of Research at Riot Platforms and co-founding the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute. HIGHLIGHTS: 2:45 Bitcoin has two fundamental utilities: payments and savings. Cultural tension exists between these use cases. 5:05 It’s challenging for bitcoiners to create products for mainstream users, as we often lack empathy for those who are more risk-averse and not as tech-savvy. 7:48 Institutional adoption serves as an effective educational Trojan horse to disseminate more information about bitcoin’s ethos without diluting the message. 9:27 EMP attack fairlure scenario and the beauty of bitcoin’s decentralization, 11:10 Controversial thoughts around the security budget. 15:09 To positively impact the bitcoin ecosystem, companies can either employ a native bitcoiner or donate to an organization like Brink or OpenSats. 17:52 If Bitcoin replaces the Fed we’ve accomplished the mission but not the whole vision. 18:31 Stablecoins are a stop-gap measure, ideal for individuals outside the US without a dollar bank account. They make it easier to enter bitcoin, serving as a temporary bridge. 19:50 Shout-out to @bitstein, @moneyball, and @saylor 20:40 There are so many layers to Bitcoin; the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know. Don’t become comfortable with a surface understanding. FOLLOW: Pierre Rochard: @BitcoinPierre https://x.com/BitcoinPierre Haley Berkoe: @HBerkoe https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: @PresidioBitcoin https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4UPEsVaAbtQsBtvbKt1RPn?si=2e5efe8f58094c2c&nd=1&dlsi=f612e8c16b0a4fde Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/21-in-21/id1804684052 Substack: https://substack.com/@presidiobitcoin #bitcoin #podcast #money #technology