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Podcasts/Presidio Bitcoin Jam/PBJ: Comparing L2 tradeoffs, Incentive structures in payments, Stablecoins on Spark
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Presidio Bitcoin Jam

PBJ: Comparing L2 tradeoffs, Incentive structures in payments, Stablecoins on Spark

September 5, 2025
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Show Notes

0:00 DK is back in the studio next week! Swimming in cold water and using a wetsuit. 3:40 Breaking News: Spark announces Stablecoins on Bitcoin and unpacking who will win in the stablecoin landscape. 10:28 Unpacking Spark, how it works, and its three structures. 18:57 How Spark uses state chains to get scaling. 27:40 Differences with Spark and other blockchains, like the new GCUL from Google. 32:56 How payments across services would work using payment trees. 42:42 What is the happy path using payment trees, and what motivates entities? 49:08 This is the early thesis of banks from early bitcoiners being played out. 55:22 Does this mean everyone is coming for Visa? 1:08:59 The Spark trust model: Is it self-custody or is the term 'Trustodial' more accurate? 1:15:29 Where will value accrue in this market? The issuer, the chain, service providers, bridges, etc. 1:19:38 Are we about to watch the next age of free banking? 1:22:28 A no-KYC payment user experience can help onboard people and agents to Bitcoin. *FOLLOW:* Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin Steve Lee: https://x.com/moneyball Max Webster: https://x.com/MaxAWebster David King: https://x.com/dksf *SUBSCRIBE TO THE SHOW:* Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/presidio-bitcoin-jam/id1804198027 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0N8ZFqAkTwxNmjDXdIo7cT?si=b07f55f8258140cb